Wednesday, January 2, 2008

Batteries

How to find batteries for your Voy:

The Voy uses three 12V sealed lead acid batteries joined in series, making the total voltage 36. These are not rare, and they are the standard batteries used in cars, alarm systems and boats. All you need to do is find the right shape and size. So don't be fooled if you see an online special for "rare" Voy batteries.

Ask your local car repair shop if they can order the batteries for you. Home depot and other like stores may be able to help you too. Ordering online is always an option, but shipping will be expensive since these lead acid batteries are very heavy. Try to find them locally first. Any place that carries car batteries can order them for you.



Voy battery specifications:
  • 12 Volt, 10 AH*
  • Length: 6 inches (152mm)
  • Width: 4 inches (102mm)
  • Height: 3¾ inches (95mm)
*The Amp Hours (AH) will determine the range of your Voy. 10 Amp Hours should be the minimum rating you should install. 12 is recommended, more is better. But a higher AH rating won't make your Voy go any faster.

How to properly charge your batteries:


Sealed lead acid batteries are completely different than Lithium Ion technology used in your cell phone and laptops. Here are the basic rules:

  1. Never run your Voy battery all down to the low zone. Doing so will permanently hurt the life of the batteries.
  2. Recharge as soon as you can. Even for short rides. Lead acid batteries live longer this way.
  3. Don't charge for more than 10 hours. Your charger may have a built in cut-off, but most chargers are cheap and simply supply voltage. Unplug as soon as the charging LED has changed to full/complete.

For more information, Google "Lead acid battery care" or see this page from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List Library on lead acid battery care.



Electra Voy 88911 battery wiring diagram:


35 comments:

  1. The previous owner of my Voy overcharged the batteries, and the bulged out the sides.
    I found that you can get a set of three 1212 batteries on ebay for $90 delivered.
    It is also not hard to convert to to LiFePO4, but would cost about $400. They last much longer, so if you use your Voy a lot it may be worth it. Also, since LiFePO4 is lighter, it will give your Voy a little more hill climbing ability.

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  2. Indeed! Lithium Ion battery packs are the way to go. Unfortunately they are pretty expensive right now. For the lead acid batteries on eBay, be sure to ask about manufacture date and how many amp hours they are rated for. 7 or 8 amp hours won't get you very far, 10 at the minimum and 12 is recommended.

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  3. When I first bought the Phantom for my wife to ride back and forth to the library it worked great. That was 3 years ago and after only 1 year the thing just wouldnt go. It showed a full charge but when you accelerated it just died and gave you very little go. Does anyone think this is the motor hub or the batteries?

    Thanks

    Joe

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  4. Sounds like the batteries. Lead acid batteries that sit around for that amount of time can die and never recover, especially if they drained to zero.

    When putting an electric vehicle that uses lead acid batteries into prolonged periods of storage, you want to charge the battery to maximum every 6 months. Otherwise sulfation occurs and permanent damage results.

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  5. I just purchased my Voy I wanted to use the pedeling feature as well they seem kind of hard to work and they fall off easy what should I try.

    Thanks,
    Conner

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  6. The pedals are really only good for starting from a dead stop. It is just a one speed underneath. The position of the pedals is indeed awkward, you might feel like a monkey on a tricycle.

    Not much you can try to keep them on. Unlike bicycles, the custom pedal arms that the Voy used has no bolt.

    The pedals are just good for having a place to keep your feet, and for communicating clearly to other bicyclists and drivers that you are on an electric bicycle.

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  7. Pocky,

    I just found 3, 15amp Batteries for my Voy there the correct fit the price is 164.97 total do you think that's a good deal and will 15amp work better then the 12amp please let me know what you think.

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  8. You'll get better range with 15 amps, but no extra speed. $164 is a little on the pricey side, see if your local automotive shop can custom order them for you. At $164, you might want to consider lithium ion batteries. Those will last longer before they need to be replaced, recharge faster and weigh a ton less. Check this one out for $200:
    http://www.conhismotor.com/ProductShow.asp?id=140

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  9. I went to the web site for the Ion battery and I can't figure out which battery to buy is it just the 36v 10ah on the front page please let me know Pocky I would like to buy it sometime next week THANKS for your help

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  10. i bought my voy recently from someone else and im pretty sure that the batteries need to be replaced my question is how do i get the optional pack for under the seat

    angel

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  11. Hi angel. The under the seat battery back is very rare. I would just have the floor mat (main battery) battery cells replaced.

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  12. what is the difference between the spare battery pack and the floor battery pack

    angel

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  13. Hi angel,

    The main battery is under the floor mat. The spare battery goes under the seat and is used for extending range. The ignition has two ON positions. The first ON is for the main battery. The second ON is for the spare battery. You only need one battery to run. I recommend changing the floor battery because any car/mechanic or electric bike shop can change that.

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  14. how do you make the voy go up to 30 miles with both battery packs if 2 igniton is for main pack and the 3 is for the spare

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  15. Simply drive using the main battery until it is dead. Then switch to the spare battery and drive until it is dead.

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  16. i know that the spare is rare but where can i find it or do u know how i can make my own

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  17. in the manual it says that the spare can make your voy go faster how does that work

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  18. The spare battery just increases the range. It will not improve your speed.

    To improve speed, considering upgrading the motor and controller together by purchase a 16" electric bicycle rear wheel kit.

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  19. What is goung price for this scooter

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  20. ON my daughters Voy I completely goofed and unwired my batteies and must have written the wrong diagram for it. Now I cannot get it rewired right.

    Any chance of someone might draw me one from theirs and email it to me: sc4green@gmail.com

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  21. Hi, it should be wired like this:
    http://www.e-bikekit.com/shop/images/products/secondary/42.jpg

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  22. does anyone know where I can buy the spare under the seat battery? and cost?

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  23. I just got a Voy that someone had abandoned at my dumpster. It is completely dead and no charger. Do you recommend I buy a new battery pack also or only a new charger? The thing looks new and never ridden. Where can I get a charger? How do I know if it's worth spending money on to get running?

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  24. Pocky, Do you know where I could find the Carpeted Foot Mat? Or might you have a spare? Or could anyone draw the outline for me?

    Thank you in advance, Patch1st@aol.com

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  25. Hi Patch,

    The carpeted foot is not the greatest because it does not attach to the scooter in anyway. What I ended up doing was go to my local hardware store and buy a large piece of rubber flooring. I then cut a square to add some grip to the Voy floor area. Check out what your hardware store has, you'll be surprised what they sell by the foot!

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  26. September 22nd. 2010 @4:25 P.M.P.T.

    I found 2 Electra Voy scooters on craigslist today and would like to know if $160..00 for one(1) and $300.00 for two (2) is a good price?
    They both need new batteries!
    The add has no year for the Electra Voy's

    Larry
    homeloanrealty@yahoo.com

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  27. A set of new batteries will cost about $100, so $260 for an electric scooter is not bad! Read the upgrade/hack page for a speed boost.

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  28. i am trying to find the casein for the batteries that goes under the seat if any one can help it would be gratefully appreciated

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  29. I believe the underseat battery pack is very rare.

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  30. I have worked in a scooter parts store for over 10 years and know that sealed-lead acid batteries designed for computer backup and backup lighting systems are not designed for electric vehicles and will not perform well in these vehicles. They are only designed to be discharged and recharged 30-40 times, while an electric vehicle battery is designed to be recharged 300-400 times or more. Get electric vehicle batteries from reputable elctric vehicle parts dealers and not from a local store that does not sell electric vehicles.

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  31. is it possible to find a voy battery at a pepboys or autozone or any car parts location?

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  32. We bought a Voy. The cable under the seat has a female 3 pin plug that looks like a picture of an output cable for a JY-120A charger. Obviously two female plugs cannot be connected. Can you tell me where and how to connect a charger and if a JY-120A is one to buy?

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  33. You might try something like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/251160225235

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  34. can someone wire in a 12v deep cycle battery for the spare battery ( underseat)
    do you know how to wire it.

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  35. i have a voy that was given to me and the motor makes a LOT of noise. shouldn't an electric motor be somewhat quiet?

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